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**pvfan** · August 17th, 2010, 07:58 PM

Is France on the way to becoming an Islamic state? - Telegraph

Islam in Europe: Brussels: Possible Muslim majority in 15-20 years

The Globe Online: October 2005 : Europe's Muslim Future

If you wont read it's your choice. You can claim certain websites aren't facutal or biased. You can't argue birth rates, death rates, and human fertility.

**Milk3** · August 17th, 2010, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by R13

The bill isn't unconstitutional, nice try.

Sorry, there is around 800 million people in Europe and 50 million of them are Muslims, they aren't going to be a majority in my lifetime if ever. Even if we assume that's somehow right, majority numbers don't equal majority power, they will always be a minority group(which doesn't have to do with numbers) in Europe IMO. Definitely not anytime soon. When it's 0.6% of the population, it's notihng to worry about, assuming I'm actually worried about it at all - which I'm not, no more than any other group. A nut is a nut, religion doesn't have all that much to do with it, they will use whatever tool they can - sometimes it's Islam, sometimes Christianity or whatever else they can.

I wasn't talking about this bill. I was talking about the actual health care bill that Obama admin. forced down the throats of the Americans that most didn't want. I'm talking about that bill

**R13** · August 18th, 2010, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by pvfan

Is France on the way to becoming an Islamic state? - Telegraph

Islam in Europe: Brussels: Possible Muslim majority in 15-20 years

The Globe Online: October 2005 : Europe's Muslim Future

If you wont read it's your choice. You can claim certain websites aren't facutal or biased. You can't argue birth rates, death rates, and human fertility.

I read over all of them, I don't get how that backs up your claim, did you read them? The first one is just about France, the second is the City of Brussels and I don't really know what the third one is getting at, I think it's saying if their fertility rate stays the same and Muslims keep coming it, it would then happen...then I read this...

One cannot forget that today?s solutions can lead to tomorrow?s problems, for if the current fertility rate remains, the population of Europe will shrink from 728 million to 207 million by the end of the century.

Since the population has only grown about 100 million since the article was released, we can assume that's a little off. I mean man, it's just impossible for that to happen in the next 50-60 years in my lifetime, for 50 of 830+ million to turn into a majority. I don't get what you're saying, is it just to whites? Or Christians ? I don't see it happening, I mean I'm willing to look at some proof that it could, but I doubt it. Doesn't really make any sense.

Originally Posted by Milk3

I wasn't talking about this bill. I was talking about the actual health care bill that Obama admin. forced down the throats of the Americans that most didn't want. I'm talking about that bill

There is no "this bill". I knew you were talking about the HC bill and it wasn't unconstitutional. And the reason most Americans didn't want the final bill, is that it didn't include in public option that the GOP stripped from it.

**pvfan** · August 18th, 2010, 12:47 AM

Global Politician - Is European Civil War Inevitable by 2025? Part I

I'll just keep posting links that support my point until one suits your criteria.

**pvfan** · August 18th, 2010, 01:05 AM

Europe's Sharia question / ISN

**Shooter** · August 18th, 2010, 03:04 PM

Interesting read there. I'd be curious if there are any numbers on a situation like that here.

**Shooter** · August 18th, 2010, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by R13

I mean man, it's just impossible for that to happen in the next 50-60 years in my lifetime, for 50 of 830+ million to turn into a majority. I don't get what you're saying, is it just to whites? Or Christians ?

It's Euro fighting age (18-40) to Muslim fighting age(18 -40). That, is not so impossible

**R13** · August 18th, 2010, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by pvfan

Global Politician - Is European Civil War Inevitable by 2025? Part I

I'll just keep posting links that support my point until one suits your criteria.

You should focus on posting links that back up your claim. I haven't even looked around any of the sites and it's content, just focusing on what's in them and they back up nothing you've said. That one talks about European males and muslim males that would could fight in a civil war, also is based on a professors claim that Muslims would outnumber Europeans in 100 years(not my lifetime) using birthrates(similar to the one used in the other link) and that Europeans will be moving in mass amounts out of the country during that same time.

Originally Posted by pvfan

Europe's Sharia question / ISN

Based on the same professor/historian claim from what I see, which is the majority in 100 years. Really don't get what it's going on about, but from what I read, doesn't give a shred of evidence to your claim.

I don't even think you're reading these when you post them, because none so far have even made the claim you made. It's impossible for them to become a number majority in my lifetime, sorry, really don't even know where you got that if this is your evidence. Even by some tiny chance that the one guys claim that it will happen in 100 years, a number majority could and probably would equal them being a minority group in Europe.